Nikole Hannah-Jones on DOJ’s Attack on Affirmative Action & How School Segregation Never Ended

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  • Nope
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Niggers always be niggering. Everywhere niggers congregate turns into hell hole…DETROIT!!!

  • dnifty1
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    So wait, according to this discussion, its fine for America to CONTINUE to discriminate against black students in primary school and high school which was the focus of the supreme court case Brown vs Board of Education as long as there is some "token program" to allow in a handful of overqualified blacks who made it through the broken black primary and educational system? So no investigation of racism and discrimination at primary and secondary school. Why isn't the DOJ investigating that? And why aren't black folks calling out why Affirmative Action is a scam because it does NOTHING to address and ENFORCE the law that black children should be getting the same resources and funding in primary and secondary school. Why isn't that the MAIN FOCUS of "Affirmative Action".

    I don't understand why all these talking heads sit here and just pass right over that part. Like African kids sitting in dirt hut schools but supposedly nobody cares about that while white settler kids go to country club schools. Affirmative Action was never designed to address actual discrimination against black children in education because that is STILL happening in grade and secondary school, not college a large part of black children don't go to college. But nobody talks about that.

    And lets now talk about how "Asians' were brought into Africa to sit next to white folks in places like South Africa where black folks still can't get what is rightfully theirs. Same thing in the Caribbean. Same thing in Central and South America. But black folks still are discriminated against. Not to mention black folks get treated like Dirt in India and China but they want black folks to sit at the back of the bus when it comes time for reparations for slavery, apartheid, discrimination and oppression.

    Amazing.

    Yet these talking heads never bring that up.

  • krucifix7
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Trump is trying to due away with so called black programs…tge end result of affirmative action is…employers will not have to hire so called African Americans… in which companies do hire so-called African Americans they get incentitive….money…..

  • whatzup
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    END AFFIRMATIVE ACTION NOW. IT WASTES EVERYONES MONEY. ALL THESE SHIT HEADS DO IS RIOT AT THESE COLLEGES ANYWAY.

  • Random American
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    I don't suppose she ever talks about the 80% single parent dilemma that exists in black households. And how high achievers are more likely to come from traditional two parent families. Liberal media celebrates dysfunctional families. As the democrats demand affirmative action to repair the result of a democratically induced welfare upbringing. Affirmative action must begin at home and extend into the neighborhood. Then it will naturally exist in the lower schools and extend into college without legislation.

  • Nellie K. Adaba
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Interesting. I never experienced this. I am not for affirmation (type of discrimination), I am for merit, talent, skills, competence, expertise, etc.

  • KeKway Blaze
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Why is this a surprise to anyone that Sessions whom many call a white supremacist for a good reason is now attacking affirmative action? Sessions was an alt-right long before that term became well known and make no doubt about it Sessions will go after civil rights legislation and do everything he can to not only weaken the civil rights act to the point where it has no teeth but claim he is making it better for everyone.

  • DXR
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    I would not be so quick to side with the NY Times on this issue of racism. Take race out of the equation than the class system is bare naked in your face. Easier to organize a movement against class than against race in America. Put fairness into the equation and the class system is harder to see as the prime force of oppression. If you want a universal emancipation from a class system to take place then race is an obstacle to that end. Just look at Venezuela, racism imbibes the opposition movement there against darker brothers and sisters trying to break the class system in that county. As Marx said, "Black labor cannot be free as long as white labor is branded." Republicans might be doing a revolutionary movement a favor. Your thoughts, if you have any?

  • Boston Scribbler
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    White people are pure EVIL

  • John Mastroligulano
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Affirmative action is divide & rule machinations by the oligarchy. It doesn't effect the people who are already wealthy or connected to the corrupt while attacking people who refuse to sell out you see the same thing in employment if you have integrity being promoted/getting a proper education is almost impossible that is what "affirmative" action was put in place to do not to help marginalized people which should have been giving everyone a platform with which to excel by that I mean a basic income & living standards so people don't have to start out in poverty which prevents people having the time & adds an amazing amount of stress/mental-physical abuse to peoples lives to repress people, people who have already been suffering for generations. Affirmative action isn't what it claims to be it is the exact opposite of the wording itself as it was applied & this was always the intent of those in power to use as a vice against people with morality-integrity, those unwilling to discriminate/attack their fellow man/woman. Applications should never have had any personal identifying information because that is used by insiders to choose personally who they want to have a chance to excel but as I've said the system is set up by insiders, by the elite, by an oligarchy to mitigate people with morality/integrity being given a real chance in life.

  • Amy
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    I'm a white woman and I know I got turned down to schools because they wanted me to write an essay bragging about myself and I'm just not good at writing those kinds of essays. Ask me about the science I studied and I'll write a great essay but, if you want to know about me, either meet me yourself or ask someone who has met me. I don't hold anything against people who got into school because of affirmative action. Their lives are hard enough already.

  • Accelerationist
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    The establishment is already shoving Kamala Harris down our throats. Get ready for the propaganda!

  • Zak Meents
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    "Pro-POOblica."

  • Sucker MC
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Affirmative action is racism

  • W Burns
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    There is discrimination against poor people of all colors…. Rich Whites, Blacks, Latinos get into any school… how about free school for Native Americans…

  • christian maguire
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Jeff Sessions and the racists are blowing out of whackjobbery, misinforming, and exacerbating….instead of using intelligence to explain these things and calming people. Like "democracy now" helps to remind us.

  • SecretaryOfState
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    You know that these white kids who have a hard time getting into college are the same kids whose parents voted for candidates who promised to put education on the back burner. Trump comes out and yells how much he loves the uneducated, and he is showered with cheers. Now you want to tell me that this kid from Texas truly couldn't get into a college and it's a fault of the descendants of the slaves?

  • Gregory W Trump SS Colonial Militia
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Whenever you see a black person in Harvard 99% of the time they are only there because of discrimination against whites and Asians. Of course all white people have a history of privilege. What a racist deranged view of history.

  • TrendyGlobalist
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Sad to see that Democracy now has become complete trash.

  • duttyredrat
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    The number 1 beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women. But hypocritically white women are also the group most opposed to affirmative action. This is because white women would rather lose this benefit they receive predominately that let other groups also receive it.

  • Wn W
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    We need to sue for Affirmative Action being intentionally redesigned to be anti African American. I'm a Black American descendant of slaves, where is my Affirmative Action? As soon as it was created government redesigned it to benefit White women, Asians and mostly non-Black persons and Black immigrants who are not descendants of slavery in America.

  • HabituallyObsessed
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    LMAO at people using California as an example to prove Asians are not getting screwed over by AA. It is precisely because AA is banned in the public schools of California that there is a "disproportionally" large percentage of Asian students in the top colleges of California, which demonstrates the extent to which Asian students are being marginalized everywhere else. And it's absolutely disgusting to witness the new low some people have stooped to to push the only argument they can come up with, the so-called "holistic approach", by playing up to all the insulting stereotypes of Asian people. Apparently Asian students suck so bad at everything but academics, collectively they have to score 400+ higher on the SAT to make up for it? Is that the point you are trying to make? Then grow a pair and say it out loud.

  • Tim Patten
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    We need an investigation. Women are 60% of all colleges. WTF? Where is the equality?

  • aws21st
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    1965 Immigration act open the door to forgieners , who want to benefit from the civil rights humans rights of African Americans who was here since year 1619 or earlier and was huge part of building this country with no fair human compensation and fought in every war .

  • aws21st
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    White women benefits the most from affirmative action policies.
    Affirmative Action was created to be political policies to redress the legacy of slavery and oppression to descendant of slavery African-American.
    The establishment has once again abandoned policies to heal systematic oppression to African-Americans descendants of slavery.

  • Teagan f
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    I don't think the "white disadvantage" is a big deal we need to give attention to. but, necessarily – it must exist. there is no way to benefit a neglected minority group, without in that exact way failing to give that same benefit to the other groups.
    I don't feel that this – on a whole – is a big deal to care about at all. but – for some individuals, this will be huge – consider the poor white person who lives in a neighborhood largely black – who goes to look for affirmative action for their equally disadvantaged upbringing – but is always denied it because all the affirmative actions they can even be aware of due to their life context – is support for specifically black folk, and so this example white person in a black neighborhood is stuck in a rut that his/her peers are just not stuck in.

    If any response is appropriate to the "white disadvantage" debate – it is firstly to listen to the individuals and what struggles they face, and then secondly to consider if there is any policy adjustments – such as switching "black support" to "support for slums of new york" or something.

  • Fabrizio
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    The concept of "under-representation" is a queer one, for it presupposes that all groups must be "represented" (whatever that means) in all places, disregarding entirely the individuality of* people and how they have different aspirations in life. Asians are a very tiny portion of Americans, yet there are many in US colleges. Why? Because Asians are hard-working people who like to study. The so-called under-representation of blacks in colleges might have something to do with the fact that perhaps, generally, blacks don't like to study.

  • Fabrizio
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Affirmative Action is racist and it creates resentment. I don't respect people who get things when the bar is lowered for them.

  • dangrabat
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Diversity is code word for anti-white

  • Constantinus Ferreus
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    If the Trump administration was really committed to tackle discrimination in higher education, they should push for free college and wiping away student debt.

  • shankyxyz
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    D Now has become a total propaganda show now. lol. all the russian hysteria and now supporting AA with bullshit arguments. What does Nikole think about Obama getting AA, given that his dad is kenyan and mom is white? how is he less privileged than say some asian american?

  • Thecornerstone 33
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    It's funny how they want to attack affirmative action when white women gain the most. They said Anti-White discrimination, this is the same bullshit David Duke has been saying for years. Simply having a few non-whites get into a majority white university isn't anti-white.

  • californication751
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Well said, Nikole. We are watching hegelian dialectic at work: their attack of affirmative action (despite it benefiting white women most), in conjunction with their trying hard to bring up Black people as supposedly benefiting from the immigration bill, and Trump talking about how the competition is rising for "low wage jobs" shows they're actively working to reshuffle the upper racial hierarchy/caste levels, and simplify it back down to the pre-1860s situation, with Black people being systematically targeted and geared toward those low wage jobs now needing filling, and pushing them back down to the agricultural/janitorial/manual labor or grunt-work jobs.

    Much like mass incarceration, it ends up being pre-engineered slavery under another name, with their creating the problem (decreasing numbers of Black people going to college and lowering funding for grade school) and pretending as if they're solving it (opening those low wage jobs up, so they can be filled by those who were unable to go to college). Alas, we see what they meant by "MAGA." Not only "Make America Gentrified Again," but "Make America Gim Crow Again" (aka trumpster spelling) – back to the time when only white people were allowed to have a hand up from the government, and good riddance to everyone else.

    What is particularly interesting is the clip with Abigail Fisher, as it's a testament for how this mindset has permeated the younger generations as well, being passed down by those who, of course, were pro-Jim Crow not long ago, to begin with, etc. Funny how she thinks "nothing separated them save for the color of their skin," as if the application package isn't something of many moving pieces – she must apparently assume that their goal statements and entrance essays all said the same thing, as well as their recommendation letters, and their sat/act scores, or what their intended majors are vs their grades in those particular subjects. She, as expected, has no time for nuance, details or specifics. Odd, though, how she's not considered to be playing the race card by her like-minded, fellow skinfolk.

    I hope people, in general, stop grouping "people of color" together, though, as Hispanics and Asians, indeed, have vastly differing experiences from Black people, and both of which are well known for their own racism, particularly here in America as well as/if not in their originating countries.

  • C Dream
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Blacks & Hispanics are NOT "under-represented" in the colleges(saying that implies that blacks are prevented from enrolling in the US colleges, which is a LIE. No one is stopping blacks & Hispanics to enroll in the college, on the contrary, they're always encouraged and helped and financially supported to enroll in the colleges).
    The only reason blacks & Hispanics are NOT enrolled in colleges as much as others are is because most blacks & Hispanics hate to go to college; they just hate school and studying; they're dumb and lazy.
    The percentages of Blacks & Hispanics enrolling in the US college is LESS than the percentage of whites and Asians enrolling in the US colleges. In fact the highest percentages of people who enroll in the US colleges are Asians, proportionally to their populations.

  • C Dream
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and Indians are RACIST against whites, but they never see their own racism and falsely perceive themselves as "the victims" of "White racism". What "White racism"? Almost all white Americans today are the least racist people, the most reasonable and kind hearted Americans are whites. But the reversed-racism has blinded blacks and other non-whites to see their own huge filthy racism.
    Today, whites are the new black. Blacks are too racist and brutal to whites: discrimination against whites in schools, workplaces, and any other American institutions is HUGE and unchecked. Black cops are killing white citizens than white cops killing black thugs. Black cops harass white drivers than the other way around. But the mainstream media only shows the cases that white cops kill black thugs, which in turn it makes blacks to become much more racist and violent on whites. And the mainstream media are all dominated by anti-white Zionists who control most of the banks too.
    Few years ago when i did social works i met some white Americans in the rural areas who fear to go to the big cities because they know blacks kill whites and whites are hated in big cities, and it's true. So whites mostly live in the rural areas to save their lives from blacks racism and black violence on whites.
    This reversed racism (mainly by blacks) HAS TO STOP! Otherwise there WILL be a revolution, a White Revolution.
    Don't wake up the sleeping giant.

  • Jason Jones
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    She's exactly right regardless if you're going to go to college or you're up for a promotion or to get the next advancement in your big job it should be based on your job performance and your grades for that admission…. They need to take away race and gender ….! Affirmative action puts other races regardless of their scores into positions or colleges or promotions? For true equality it should be based on your performance like I said take away gender and race….!!! If the minorities wanted true equality they would say man just put everyone equal? Let us compete with everyone and actually deserve what they get. (Everyone's equal)

  • Kelvin Waters
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    The proponents of affirmative action can never explain why such a program was required in the first place, at least they can't admit it.

  • Joe Public
    September 28, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Fuck you nicole Hanna jones you white hating bitch.